original car with original engine

[David Kemp]

As the last Jowett rolled off the production line 60 years ago, is there any Jowetts with the original engine still fitted to the car?

[Andrew Henshall]

Hi David,

Speaking for the JCCA, our club register shows that our members have reported:
- two pre-war Jowetts with matching engine/chassis numbers
- ten Bradfords with matching engine/chassis numbers
- 59 Javelins with matching engine/chassis numbers
- 15 Jupiters with matching engine/chassis numbers (not including yours)

Cheers,
Andrew

[Keith Clements]

I think Trevor Spero's Javelin may still be on its original pistons and rings having done about 40000 miles.

[ian Howell]

My 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon is a matching numbers car, and so far as was possible during the rebuild programme over the past 13 years, I have either repaired existing components or sourced contemporary replacement items. (OK, there is one Skoda piston ring!).

The exceptions have been the majority of the wooden framework which was either rotten or woodwormed, or both (apart from the original floor, bulkhead and dashboard), the shaped metal rear corner panels, the fabric outer covering, headlining and the upholstery, although even here the original wooden framework and springs of the seats have been preserved.

I feel I have done all that was reasonably possible to keep the car's integrity.

[David Kemp]

Thank you, the results are quite amazing, Neither of my Jupiters as yet have engines. & what happened to the original is clouded I'm
n the last 60 years of their lives.

[ian Howell]

I wonder if the original engines are now residing in other Jupiters (or even Javelins!?) in possession of other Club members?

It seems unlikely that the engines were removed to make room for fresh air, more likely to be used elsewhere.

Is there a 'local' (ie Oz) Register that records engine and chassis numbers?

[Robin Fairservice]

I replied to this last week, but my message has never shown up. I own a 1950 Jowett Javelin De Luxe (Left Hand Drive), and I still have the original engine # 10010 which matches the chassis number. At present it has another engine installed, because I acquired a barn-find engine, had it rebuilt, and then installed whilst the original engine was rebuilt. I haven't got around to swapping engines yet. During the rebuilds both crankshafts were found to have cracks, so were replaced with modern ones from New Zealand.

[Andrew Henshall]

[/quote] Is there a 'local' (ie Oz) Register that records engine and chassis numbers?[/quote]

Yes Ian, The JCCA does have an up-to-date register that records engine & chassis numbers, where members have provided this info. (Refer my earlier post near the top of this thread). Unfortunately, David Kemp's Jupiters are not listed in our club Register for some reason. I happen to know that David purchased E2SAL715 from the USA in 2014 and imported it into Australia, and so it's original engine, if it still exists, is most likely somewhere in the USA. David also bought a Jupiter chassis (believed to be E1SA267R) from a mate of mine in South Australia, but it's original engine does not appear in our club register in any Jupiter or Javelin. Shame, because we have managed to reunite lost engines with their original chassis in a few instances.

I have a crankcase E0PC11709 that I purchased in Victoria many many years ago as part of a trailer load of spare Javelin parts. In 2015, I discovered that our club Librarian (who lives in Queensland) owns Javelin E0PC11709, but wasn't interested in reuniting the pair because he has a totally reliable non-original engine in the car.

Regards,

Andrew

[ian Howell]

Andrew: -

Interesting to find that efforts are sometimes made to re-unite engine/chassis.

MANY (about 50) years ago I went with a friend to a scrap yard in London to find a spare axle to replace the Essex one that had been fitted to his 1926 Humber tourer.

We found an axle casing with a rusty 'diff' and in another yard we found a serviceable diff.

When he cleaned up the axle casing he was delighted to find it was the original one from his car (Humbers numbered all the main assemblies in those days).

He also found out why the axle had been changed as the rusty diff also had shattered 'star' wheels still in place.